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The official reports of Anette Olzon leaving Nightwish are rather confusing and don't help at all understanding how the divorce came about. For instance, here's the story according to the official web site: https://www.nightwish.com/band#bio "The unexpected chain of events begins in late September, as vocalist Anette Olzon falls sick and is rushed to hospital just before the concert in Denver, Colorado. As Nightwish do not want to disappoint the fans that have already filled the venue, after a quick counsel, they decide to take the stage after all, performing the songs with the help of Elize Ryd and Alissa White-Gluz of the support band Kamelot. Olzon returns to front the band for one more performance, but nothing can prevent the ending of a chapter in the story of Nightwish. After the concert in Salt Lake City on September 29, Olzon and the band part ways. The situation is challenging to say the least, as Nightwish’s professional ethic does not let them cancel the remaining eleven concerts of the important US tour. The band immediately contact their old friend Floor Jansen, who had proven her vocal skills in the Dutch band After Forever. The timetable seems nearly impossible, but against all odds, Nightwish take the stage in Seattle on October 1st with Floor Jansen as their singer. Having rehearsed the vocal parts during the intercontinental flight, Jansen tackles the formidable challenge amazingly well, and the band get to sigh in relief. The tour can go on, and what’s even better, Jansen, whose skillful vocals and dedicated stage presence are immediately recognized, receives a great welcome by the fans on the West Coast, in Florida, and elsewhere in the US." This raises only more questions -- does the chain of events really begin only two days before Anette is fired? How does Anette being sick leads to her leaving the band? How does Floor manage to sing in Seattle without the band skipping a single show? The surprisingly candid documentary "Please Learn The Setlist In 48 Hours", while extremely revealing about the stress prevailing at the time in the band, doesn't provide answers either. In order to reconstruct the chain of events I thought of posting a few notes I had saved from the days of this second major schism in the NW lineup. The intent is not to rekindle an endless debate but rather to provide some background -- for old fans to relive a traumatic and divisive event, and also for new fans to get some perspective on how the events were lived and perceived by fandom at the time. Enjoy and feel free to add to the thread if you have related info! From Wiki: This is how it happened.

Looking for a specific topic? Start Here! Also check out the Live album and Tour index here. Studio albums: 2024: Yesterwynde 2020: Human :||: Nature 2015: Endless Forms Most Beautiful 2011: Imaginaerum 2007: Dark Passion Play 2004: Once 2002: Century Child 🎵 YouTube 2001: Over The Hills And Far Away (EP) 2000: Wishmaster 1998: Oceanborn 1997: Angels Fall First Compilations: 2018: Decades 2011: Walking In The Air: The Greatest Ballads 2005: Highest Hopes: The Best Of Nightwish 2005: Bestwishes 🇯🇵 2004: Tales From The Elvenpath 🇩🇪 2002: Bless The Child (single/EP) 2000: Wishmastour 2000 (EP) 🇫🇷

Looking for a specific discussion topic? Start here! Also check out the Studio album and Compilations index here. Live albums: 2022: Virtual Live Show From The Islanders Arms 2021 (DVD/BR) 2019: Decades Live In Buenos Aires (CD/DVD/BR) 2016: Vehicle Of Spirit (CD/DVD/BR) 2013: Showtime, Storytime (CD/DVD/BR) 2009: Made In Hong Kong (And In Various Other Places) (CD) 2006: End Of An Era (CD/DVD) 2003: End Of Innocence (DVD+CD) 2001: From Wishes To Eternity (CD/DVD) Live recordings on studio/compilation albums (WIP): 2021: Once remastered (CD) 2016: Endless Forms Most Beautiful Tour Edition (DVD) 2005: Highest Hopes: The Best Of Nightwish Special Edition (DVD) Tours: (🎵 with links to available live recordings; 💿 official live album) 2021-23: Human :||: Nature World Tour 🎵 💿 (virtual) 2018: Decades World Tour 🎵 💿 2015-16: Endless Forms Most Beautiful World Tour 🎵 💿 2012-13: Imaginaerum World Tour 🎵 💿 2007-09: Dark Passion Play World Tour 🎵 💿 2004-05: Once Upon A Tour 🎵 💿 2002-03: World Tour Of The Century + Summer Of Innocence Tour 🎵 💿 2000-01: Wishmaster World Tour 🎵 💿 1998-99: Oceanborn Tour 🎵 1997-98: Angels Fall First Tour 🎵

I just had to post this, it's beautiful! Floor and Troy playing Nemo live!

It's the final countdown! Five days until release, hopefully most fans will be able to get their hands on the record in good time, despite the store closures and potential shipping delays. Definitely not the best time to release a new album, with people everywhere fighting for safety and sanity, and the support tour likely delayed for a good few months at the least. Nightwish and Floor have been posting short video capsules on YouTube about the new album, to remind us that the wait is finally (almost) over!

Still no word on the Official NW site about any changes to the South American tour in May, and tickets are still on sale for the May 5 gig in Chile. But it seems highly unlikely that international travel will be possible in May, and that the pandemic will be under control in South America by then. Other May-June shows in North America have long been canceled or postponed, so it's just a matter of time before an announcement about the Human Nature tour has to be made.

Already it seems that the China tour has fallen victim to the Covid-19 pandemic, to be postponed to October 2020. However with worldwide spread of the virus and the current lockdown in Italy, it's likely that other venues will also be affected sooner or later. Follow the state of the tour here.

Ad Astra is now available on YouTube and elsewhere, as a promotional video for a collaboration between NW and World Trust Fund (the same Fund sponsored by the Indiegogo Floor campaign). It's a quite a beautiful and powerful piece of music, and the video is nice too!

Second single, Harvest, just popped up on YouTube and elsewhere while I was away! More thoughts on it shortly, but at first listen a much simpler song than Noise, in that celtic-meets-metal vein of My Walden and others before, but enjoyable and will probably sound great live. Need to give it more spins to form a better opinion! But I like it so far.

Hey whitenoise, welcome! Sorry for not replying more quickly, I was out of the country for the entire week. Anyway, please feel free to comment wherever you like, I'm slowly building up some material to add to the site. And eventually traffic will pick up, but this place is not about traffic but more about discussing NW and similar interests in a less crowded venue.

Dates for the "North American Tour" were published today. Four gigs only, one in Canada (Toronto), two in Hollywood and one in New York, September 2020. On top of what appears to be a very short North America tour, rumours fly that the China gigs might be cancelled because of the Covid-19 (coronavirus) threat. 🤨

Well it didn't take long, the extended goal of 35 000 euros that would guarantee a backstage doc will be reached in a matter of hours! Now the only thing missing would be a download link for the backers, and everything would be perfect!

Today Floor launched an Indiegogo campaign to crowdfund a digital release of her solo live show. More details on her Indiegogo page here: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/floor-jansen-digital-live-release/x/16094815 A few hours in and already she has reached 40% of her goal! 😄

The 2020 World Tour is starting in April in China. Or is it? What is that show mentioned on the official site on Feb 13, in Interlaken? Weird. Anyway, the first live performance of new material will probably be on April 10th, on the special "Nevski & The Prospects" gig in Oulu! No North American shows yet announced, will they come here in September or only next year? (list updated) 2020 2021 2022 China-Beijing-Beijing Exhibition Center-January 18, 2022 (POSTPONED to January 2023) China-Shanghai-Bandai Namco Base-January 20, 2022 (POSTPONED to January 2023) China-Shanghai-Bandai Namco Base-January 21, 2022 (POSTPONED to January 2023) China-Guangzhou-Gym II-January 23, 2022 (POSTPONED to January 2023) Finland-Helsinki-Ice Hall-January 29, 2022 (POSTPONED to April 2022) Finland-Tampere-Nokia Areena-January 30, 2022 (POSTPONED to April 2022) Finland-Tampere-Nokia Areena-April 22, 2022 (new date) Finland-Helsinki-Ice Hall-April 24, 2022 (new date) Canada-Toronto ON-History-May 4, 2022 Canada-Montreal QC-MTELUS-May 6, 2022 United States-Lowell MA-Tsongas Centre-May 7, 2022 (new date) United States-New York City NY-Terminal 5-May 8, 2022 (new date) United States-Silver Spring MD-The Fillmore-May 10, 2022 United States-Chicago IL-Radius-May 12, 2022 United States-St. Paul MN-The Fillmore-May 13, 2022 United States-Denver CO-Mission Ballroom-May 15, 2022 United States-San Francisco CA-The Warfield-May 18, 2022 United States-Los Angeles CA-The Wiltern-May 20, 2022 (new date) United States-Los Angeles CA-The Wiltern-May 21, 2022 (new date) Finland-Hyvinkää-Rock Fest-June 2, 2022 Sweden-Sölvesborg-Sweden Rock-June 9, 2022 (new date) Netherlands-Landgraaf-Pinkpop-June 17, 2022 France-Clisson-Hellfest-June 25, 2022 Spain-Santa Coloma De Gramenet-Barcelona Rock Fest-June 30, 2022 (new date) France-Nîmes-Festival De Nîmes-July 2, 2022 (new date) Czech Republic-Vizovice-Masters of Rock-July 10, 2022 (new date) Estonia-Tallinn-Pirita Klooster-July 15, 2022 Finland-Joensuu-Ilosaarirock-July 17, 2022 Germany-Wurster Nordseeküste-Deichbrand Festival-July 23, 2022 (new date) Hungary-Székesfehérvár-Fezen Festival-July 30, 2022 Romania-Bucharest-Romexpo-August 1, 2022 Finland-Turku-Knotfest-August 12, 2022 Brazil-Rio de Janeiro-Vivo Rio-October 13, 2022 (new date) Brazil-São Paulo-Espaço Das Américas-October 14, 2022 (new date) Argentina-Buenos Aires-Luna Park-October 16, 2022 (new date) Chile-Santiago-Teatro Caupolican-October 19, 2022 (new date) Mexico-Mexico City-Palacio De Los Deportes-October 22, 2022 (new date) Mexico-Guadalajara-Teatro Diana-October 23, 2022 (new date) Russia-Sankt-Petersburg-Yubileyny Sports Palace-November 9, 2022 (CANCELLED) Russia-Moscow-Crocus City Hall-Sun, November 10, 2022 (CANCELLED) Ukraine-Kiev-Stereoplaza-November 12, 2022 (CANCELLED) Belarus-Minsk-Falcon Club-November 13, 2022 (CANCELLED) Belgium-Antwerpen-Lotto Arena-November 20, 2022 (new date) United Kingdom-London-The SSE Arena Wembley-November 21, 2022 (new date) United Kingdom-Birmingham-Resorts World Arena-November 22, 2022 (new date) Ireland-Dublin-3Arena-November 23, 2022 (new date) Germany-Berlin-Max-Schmeling-Halle-November 25, 2022 (new date) Netherlands-Amsterdam Zuidoost-Ziggo Dome-November 27, 2022 (new date) Netherlands-Amsterdam Zuidoost-Ziggo Dome-November 28, 2022 (new date) France-Paris-Accorhotels Arena-November 30, 2022 (new date) Germany-Düsseldorf-PSD Bank Dome-December 1, 2022 (new date) Luxembourg-Esch-sur-alzette-Rockhal-December 2, 2022 (new date) Austria-Vienna-Wiener Stadthalle-December 4, 2022 (new date) Germany-München-Kleine Olympiahalle München-December 5, 2022 (new date) Italy-Milano-Fiera Milano City / Padiglione 0-December 6, 2022 (new date, new venue) Germany-Frankfurt Am Main-Festhalle Messe-December 9, 2022 (new date) Germany-Bamberg-Brose Arena-December 10, 2022 (new date) Germany-Hamburg-Barclays Arena-December 12, 2022 (new date) Germany-Leipzig-Quarterback Immobilien Arena-December 13, 2022 (new date) Poland-Gliwice-Arena Gliwice-December 14, 2022 (new date) Switzerland-Zurich-Hallenstadion-December 16, 2022 (new date) Germany-Stuttgart-Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle-December 18, 2022 (new date) Hungary-Budapest-Budapest Sportarena-December 20, 2022 (new date) Czech Republic-Prague-O2 Arena-December 21, 2022 (new date) 2023 China-Beijing-Beijing Exhibition Center-January 3, 2023 (CANCELLED) China-Shanghai-Bandai Namco Base-January 5, 2023 (CANCELLED) China-Shanghai-Bandai Namco Base-January 6, 2023 (CANCELLED) China-Guangzhou-Gym II-January 8, 2023 (CANCELLED) China-Hong Kong-Star Hall-January 11, 2023 (CANCELLED) Singapore-Sentosa-Hard Rock Coliseum-January 15, 2023 (CANCELLED) Indonesia-Jakarta-Istoria Senayan-January 17, 2023 (CANCELLED) Philippines-Manila-New Frontier Theater-January 17, 2023 (CANCELLED) Taiwan-Taipei-Zepp New Taipei-January 19, 2023 (POSTPONED) South Korea-Seoul-KBS Arena-January 23, 2023 (CANCELLED) Japan-Osaka-Namba Hatch-January 25, 2023 (POSTPONED) Japan-Tokyo-Ex Theater Roppongi-January 27, 2023 (POSTPONED) Japan-Tokyo-Ex Theater Roppongi-January 28, 2023 (POSTPONED) United States-Miami FL-70000 Tons Of Metal-January 31, 2023 United States-Miami FL-70000 Tons Of Metal-February 2, 2023 Japan-Osaka-Loud Park 23-March 25, 2023 (new date, new venue) Japan-Tokyo-Loud Park 23-March 26, 2023 (new date, new venue) Philippines-Quezon City-SM City North EDSA Skydome-March 29, 2023 Taiwan-Taipei-Zepp New Taipei-March 31, 2023 (new date) Sweden-Gävle-Atlas Rock-June 3, 2023 (CANCELLED) Sweden-Stockholm-Evenew Arena-June 3, 2023 (new venue) Greece-Athens-Release Athens-June 7, 2023 Germany-Berlin-Parkbühne Wuhlheide-June 9, 2023 Austria-Nickelsdorf-Nova Rock-June 10, 2023 Germany-Gelsenkirchen-Amphitheater-June 12, 2023 Finland-Kitee-Kiteen Rantakenttä-June 16, 2023 Finland-Vaasa-Lemonsoft Stadion-June 17, 2023 Norway-Oslo-Tons Of Rock-June 22, 2023 (CANCELLED)

2021-23 Human :||: Nature World Tour Details on Wikipedia 71 shows over 2 years, including many cancellations and postponements due to Covid restrictions. Setlist (specific setlists at setlist.fm) Shows (with links to recordings available on YouTube - 🎤🎤🎤 sound quality - 🎞️🎞️🎞️ image quality - ⭐ pro recording) United Kingdom-London-Planet Rock-February 27, 2020 (promotional acoustic performance) Nemo 🎤🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️🎞️ ⭐ How's The Heart 🎤🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️🎞️ ⭐ 📺 Finland-Vantaa-Valova-May 28, 2021 (pre-recorded streaming concert) Streaming release "An Evening With Nightwish In A Virtual World 2021" (full show) ⭐ 📺 Finland-Vantaa-Valova-May 29, 2021 (pre-recorded streaming concert) DVD release "Virtual Live Show From The Islanders Arms 2021" (full show) ⭐ Finland-Oulu-Club Teatria-July 28, 2021 (warm-up show performed as the Russian cover band Nevski & The Prospects) Finland-Oulu-Qstock-July 30, 2021 Finland-Kuopio-Kuopiorock-July 31, 2021 Norway-Oslo-Oslo Spektrum Arena-November 14, 2021 Finland-Tampere-Nokia Areena-April 22, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Finland-Helsinki-Ice Hall-April 24, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Canada-Toronto ON-History-May 4, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Canada-Montreal QC-MTELUS-May 6, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Lowell MA-Tsongas Centre-May 7, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-New York City NY-Terminal 5-May 8, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Silver Spring MD-The Fillmore-May 10, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Chicago IL-Radius-May 12, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-St. Paul MN-The Fillmore-May 13, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Denver CO-Mission Ballroom-May 15, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-San Francisco CA-The Warfield-May 18, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Los Angeles CA-The Wiltern-May 20, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Los Angeles CA-The Wiltern-May 21, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Summer of Human 2022 Finland-Hyvinkää-Rock Fest-June 2, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Sweden-Sölvesborg-Sweden Rock-June 9, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Netherlands-Landgraaf-Pinkpop-June 17, 2022 Full show (except Ad Astra) 🎤🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️🎞️ ⭐ Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ France-Clisson-Hellfest-June 25, 2022 Full show (streaming) ⭐ Spain-Santa Coloma De Gramenet-Barcelona Rock Fest-June 30, 2022 France-Nîmes-Festival De Nîmes-July 2, 2022 Czech Republic-Vizovice-Masters of Rock-July 10, 2022 Estonia-Tallinn-Pirita Klooster-July 15, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Finland-Joensuu-Ilosaarirock-July 17, 2022 Germany-Wurster Nordseeküste-Deichbrand Festival-July 23, 2022 Hungary-Székesfehérvár-Fezen Festival-July 30, 2022 Romania-Bucharest-Romexpo-August 1, 2022 Finland-Turku-Knotfest-August 12, 2022 Partial show Brazil-Rio de Janeiro-Vivo Rio-October 13, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Brazil-São Paulo-Espaço Das Américas-October 14, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Argentina-Buenos Aires-Luna Park-October 16, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Chile-Santiago-Teatro Caupolican-October 19, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Mexico-Mexico City-Palacio De Los Deportes-October 22, 2022 Mexico-Guadalajara-Teatro Diana-October 23, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Belgium-Antwerpen-Lotto Arena-November 20, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United Kingdom-London-The SSE Arena Wembley-November 21, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United Kingdom-Birmingham-Resorts World Arena-November 22, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Ireland-Dublin-3Arena-November 23, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Berlin-Max-Schmeling-Halle-November 25, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Netherlands-Amsterdam Zuidoost-Ziggo Dome-November 27, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Netherlands-Amsterdam Zuidoost-Ziggo Dome-November 28, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ France-Paris-Accorhotels Arena-November 30, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Düsseldorf-PSD Bank Dome-December 1, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Luxembourg-Esch-sur-alzette-Rockhal-December 2, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Austria-Vienna-Wiener Stadthalle-December 4, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-München-Kleine Olympiahalle München-December 5, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Italy-Milano-Fiera Milano City / Padiglione 0-December 6, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Frankfurt Am Main-Festhalle Messe-December 9, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Bamberg-Brose Arena-December 10, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Hamburg-Barclays Arena-December 12, 2022 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Leipzig-Quarterback Immobilien Arena-December 13, 2022 Poland-Gliwice-Arena Gliwice-December 14, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Switzerland-Zurich-Hallenstadion-December 16, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Germany-Stuttgart-Hanns-Martin-Schleyer-Halle-December 18, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Hungary-Budapest-Budapest Sportarena-December 20, 2022 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Czech Republic-Prague-O2 Arena-December 21, 2022 (🎟️ sold out) Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ United States-Miami FL-70000 Tons Of Metal-January 31, 2023 United States-Miami FL-70000 Tons Of Metal-February 2, 2023 Japan-Osaka-Loud Park 23-March 25, 2023 Japan-Tokyo-Loud Park 23-March 26, 2023 Philippines-Quezon City-SM City North EDSA Skydome-March 29, 2023 Taiwan-Taipei-Zepp New Taipei-March 31, 2023 Sweden-Stockholm-Evenew Arena-June 3, 2023 Greece-Athens-Release Athens-June 7, 2023 Germany-Berlin-Parkbühne Wuhlheide-June 9, 2023 Austria-Nickelsdorf-Nova Rock-June 10, 2023 Germany-Gelsenkirchen-Amphitheater-June 12, 2023 Finland-Kitee-Kiteen Rantakenttä-June 16, 2023 Partial show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Finland-Vaasa-Lemonsoft Stadion-June 17, 2023 Full show 🎤🎤 🎞️🎞️ Norway-Oslo-Tons Of Rock-June 22, 2023 (cancelled)

It's a great time to be a NW fan, with new material just about to be released, after a 5-year break! Your thoughts on Noise, the first single, or the promotion surrounding album #9 ?

It's only fair to start this by introducing myself. Big Nightwish fan since mid-2015, I was pretty much sucked in by listening to Showtime Storytime vids on Youtube. I do remember listening to Walking In The Air earlier on (2012) and wondering who those guys were, but it took some time before I came back to the band. My previous metal-ish interests were Lacuna Coil, Evanescence (I know, soft stuff) and Dream Theater. I have always been a progressive rock fan, but leaning more into heavier stuff as time goes by. I decided to launch this forum because I'm old fashioned and I love forums. I haven't been a member of Nightwish Online for very long before it went dark, but I loved the place as much as anyone else and spent way too much time going through the tons of archives there. I was devastated to see it go away, and I still cling on the hope that it can be brought back. But in the mean time, as much as I'm happy that there's a vibrant Discord community (or two) available, I gave it a try but it's not my style. Too difficult to go back and reread old conversations, it's just all too hectic for an old forty-something like me. 😁 So yeah, this is a new forum for those who like the slower pace and community spirit. I have no links to the band, and I'm paying this from my own pocket. Feel free to ask any questions you have, and I may write up a forum FAQ if the forum gains traction. Enjoy!